Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby NaranjaRa » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:59 pm

AliceElite wrote:Now that that is out of the way, if you are a man who hasn't yet publicly denounced Drumpf's words to your male and female friends, you need to, and until you do, you are 1)part of the problem and 2) showing that the women in your life can't trust you. This is the time. There will never be a better time to talk to your bros about sexual assault.

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This is something that should be obvious - it should be clear to men that they and their friends do not condone this kind of talk, and maybe it is. Maybe you are a man who says to himself "all my friends know that this is absolutely disgusting"

Are you sure? Are you 100% sure that no man that you know has ever harmed anyone with sexual violence? Are you 100% sure that your male friends know exactly how you feel on this topic?

Because "we've never talked about it, but I'm pretty sure" isn't an answer, it's an excuse.

NOW is your chance to talk to your men friends about consent. NOW is your time to bring it up. There will NEVER be a better time to say "This kind of activity is not okay". If you can't say it when a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE admits to sexually assaulting a woman, you will never say it, and you ARE NOT someone your female friends can trust.


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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby Rivoc » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:28 am

No one I've ever known has talked about sexual assault being okay. its not okay. not in private, not in public, not ever. im supporting Johnson all the way. I dont think hes perfect, but if you give me the options of a burnt steak, way overseasoned seafood, or chicken breast with just basic salt and pepper, im picking the chicken breast every time.

He seems reasonable, and i agree with just enough of his policies to feel good about having him as president.
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby Skywalker » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:10 pm

That man makes my blood boil. How people can justify voting for him is beyond me. I have had chats with folks on Facebook (yea I know.. not a reliable place), but they all have said that they do not mind how Drumpf has treated women or his comments on sexual assault. That he is justified because he is rich and that is what rich men do.

I am just sitting here screaming in republican stronghold.. there is no justification for his actions. What do I know, I am just a dumb woman (as someone called me when I stated that I am a registered Democrat).

I even had a family member block me because I decided to call her out on her love of Drumpf. I'm sorry, but if you are going to scream women's rights and then support repealing the 19th (women's right to vote). I can and WILL say something, even if it is on facebook.

I am appalled at the number of people who state that his actions are justifiable and there is nothing wrong with "locker room talk."
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby NaranjaRa » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:15 pm

great quote from a huffpost blog article:

What do you call a nation that refuses to even look at sexual assault claims against a man seeking to lead the free world?

Rape culture.
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby AliceElite » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:58 pm

Rivoc wrote:No one I've ever known has talked about sexual assault being okay. its not okay. not in private, not in public, not ever. im supporting Johnson all the way. I dont think hes perfect, but if you give me the options of a burnt steak, way overseasoned seafood, or chicken breast with just basic salt and pepper, im picking the chicken breast every time.

He seems reasonable, and i agree with just enough of his policies to feel good about having him as president.


So the problem with johnson is that he's a socially liberal fiscal conservative which means he hates poor people as much as republicans, he just thinks that if you're gay you should be able to get married and that drugs should be decriminalized. He is small government, ultimate freedom, zero social safety nets. He's scarier than republicans, because he thinks I'm worthless under a veneer of personal freedoms.

Support socialism. ;)


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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby NaranjaRa » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:30 pm

this one is from OVER A YEAR AGO. but people are surprised by the tape... //smh //facepalm //puke

18 Real Things Donald Drumpf Has Actually Said About Women

(details in the article)

1 That giving your wife “negotiable assets” is a terrible mistake.
2 That women are essentially aesthetically-pleasing objects.
3 That sexual assault in the military is totally expected.
4 That women on “The Apprentice” need to rely on sex appeal.
5 That bad press doesn’t matter as long as you have a sexy girlfriend.
6 That a woman MUST be hot in order to be a journalist.
7 That pumping breast milk is “disgusting.”
8 That all women hate prenups, because they are gold diggers.
9 That women have a “great act” going on to trick men.
10 That Hillary would be a bad president because of her husband’s actions.
11 That Angelina Jolie has dated too many guys to be attractive.
12 That Bette Midler’s “ugly face and body” are offensive.
13 That Rosie O’Donnell is “crude, rude, obnoxious and dumb.”
14 That the best line in any movie is this beautiful gem. ("Tell that bitch to be cool." from Pulp Fiction)
15 That a journalist who offended him had an ugly face.
16 That Cher is ‘lonely’ and ‘a loser’ because she doesn’t support him.
17 That women fawn all over him because he is rich and powerful.
18 That the ladies on “The Apprentice” are all super in to him.

it really never ends...
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby NaranjaRa » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:37 pm

also see: Enough is enough: the 2016 election is now a referendum on male entitlement

What Drumpf didn’t realize was how many of his listeners were thinking about all the times that men had done such things to them.


But no matter what Bill Clinton has done, he’s not running for president – and nobody has ever accused Hillary Clinton of grabbing the genitals of a stranger or pushing a man up against a wall and shoving her tongue down his mouth. The overwhelming majority of sex crimes are committed by men, and neither Drumpf nor most of the commentators trying to keep up with the current firestorm seem to understand that that fact alone has transformed this race.


Is it any wonder that the segment of the electorate that is routinely victimized views such offenses differently than the segment of the electorate that commits them?

Whether the crime is harassment, domestic violence or murder, the root cause includes an overwhelming sense of male entitlement: “I get to do this to you because I’m the man and you’re a woman.” Such privilege carries an assumption of ownership, as with property rights: experts on domestic violence attest that men are more likely to assault female partners when they feel they’re losing control, as when threatened with a divorce or a restraining order.

And men who fear they’re losing control have fueled the rise of Donald Drumpf.


Women have always been penalized for violating conventional gender norms, but no woman has ever had a realistic chance of winning the White House until now – and the backlash against Clinton’s temerity was apparent from the start of her campaign.

As Sandy Garossino wrote in the National Observer, “Until she ran for president, Clinton was the most admired woman in the world … So what the hell happened? The woman ran for president, that’s what. Who does she think she is?”


Will American women – and the men who actually care about their welfare – support the leadership of a man who feels entitled to kiss strangers on the mouth and brag about grabbing crotches, simply because he is rich and famous and male?

Will voters agree that a man should view and rank all women according to their physical attributes and fire those he doesn’t find sexually desirable, because he thinks a woman’s value is measured by her looks?

Will voters approve the double standards of a man who publicly humiliates women for their sexual conduct even as he laughs off his own far more lurid transgressions?

Will the electorate agree that males don’t have to play by the rules – that men don’t need to do what’s best for their families (like refraining from dumping the mothers of their children in tabloid sex scandals) or for the economy (like paying contractors who provided services instead of cheating them) or for their country (like paying taxes)?
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby AliceElite » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:47 pm

I know I'm supposed to like actually contribute in this section, but all I can give you is more rage.

A presidential candidate actually has to remind the American people that the other candidate is an actual, real, self-admitted sexual predator.

And he'll still get votes.
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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby NaranjaRa » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:36 pm

AliceElite wrote:I know I'm supposed to like actually contribute in this section, but all I can give you is more rage.

A presidential candidate actually has to remind the American people that the other candidate is an actual, real, self-admitted sexual predator.

And he'll still get votes.


psh this thread is all over the place which is not at all unlike this entire race.

i don't know whether to be more enraged at Drumpf himself or the people who will bestow said votes even after all of this.

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Re: Donald Drumpf recorded discussing sexual assault

Postby AliceElite » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:46 am

I just....

I'm white girl-ed out on this one. I can't anymore. I cannot.
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